2013-07-23 Ubuntu Server Team Meeting

Posted in Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Server meeting minutes on July 23rd, 2013 by James Page

Meeting summary

Review Previous Actions

Robie has a merge proposal nearly ready for landing for delta reporting:

  • ACTION: rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy

Most server packages are now unblocked from migrating to the saucy release pocket aside from one last fix for the apache2.4 transition.

Saucy Development

James noted that Debian import freeze and Alpha 2 for saucy is schedule for next week:

Ubuntu Server Team Events

OSCON happening right now – Jorge and Mark Mims running a Charm School!

Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

plars updated on a couple of kernel bugs currently causing issues in server automated testing:

These should be fixed up shortly

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

Some issues with KVM guests with the latest saucy kernel – apw investigating.

Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

Nothing to note.

Open Discussion

The discussion about “Open Discussion” started at 16:33.

Antonio took the opportunity to remind everyone that UDS is scheduled for the end of August.

Chuck noted that Quantum has now been renamed Neutron; removal of the old source package has been requested.

Announce next meeting date and time

Tuesday 30th July at 1600 GMT

Full meeting log can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20130723

Ubuntu Server Development – Weekly Dunk – Week 28 (2013)

Posted in Ubuntu Server, Weekly Dunk on July 10th, 2013 by Dave Walker

The Ubuntu Server Team is constantly working on some really exciting areas.  We try to collate the best of open source to deliver a distribution suitable for cloud, scale out and traditional server workloads.  We try to provide agile granite foundations for users to build their workload on.  Most of the work we do is for no cost to the user, maximising value.

On a weekly basis, we hold an IRC meeting, where we discuss blueprints and development, but I do think we could probably do better at sharing some of the great stuff we are doing.

To achieve this, i’m setting a target of trying to give a weekly insight into the highlights of the work that the Ubuntu Server team is doing.  So join me on my mission and prepare for your dunked digest into the giant cup of Server.

Juju is a key Ubuntu Server technology.  it is typically called a service orchestration management tool, rather than a server management tool.  Many of the deliverables of the server team are either built upon Juju, or underpins Juju itself.  In return, Juju underpins greatness.

Juju supports writing a charm in any language (or even compiled binary!), that can be executed or interpreted by the machine.  I believe the most complex charms in the store are the Openstack ones.  Some of the original charms were written in shell/bash, but it has become apparent that a richer higher level such as python can be massively useful.  Therefore, we decided to rewrite some of the earlier charms in python.  The Cinder charm was rewritten by Adam in python and Andres has been on the same for Glance. The real key part of this is that the deployments can have a seamless upgrade, without realising that the underlying charm language has changed.

We’ve also found that many of the charms contain significant overlap, therefore we have been trying to push much of the common code into charm-helpers.  This is vital for any DRhY methodology, which helps with maintainability – but also allowing us to be more effective.  James found that he could rework the Ceph charms to use charm-helper and push some extra features back to charm-helpers.

The velocity of development means that Quality is a constant concern.  The only way we can raise our capacity and have a good level of confidence in what we deliever is to have frequent testing.  To scale this, we’ve been putting significant work into automating areas where we can.  DEP-8 (autopkgtest) is a format for describing test requirements, setup and the actual test case.  Adam implemented DEP-8 package testing into the Openstack packaging, using juju, jenkins and a special internal Openstack deployment we’ve codenamed ServerStack.

Adam also worked on some Ubuntu Cloud Archive tooling to make it easier to submit packages and cleaner package release reporting that make it easier to identify workflow status.

Andres uploaded latest version of MAAS to Saucy. Diogo who is helping to drive quality in the server team worked on resolving some MAAS jenkins test failures under Saucy and setup tarmac (code lander) for juju-gui.

Chuck uploaded new versions of python-keystoneclient, python-ceilometer, python-swiftclient.  In addition he also backported Qemu 1.5.0 to the Ubuntu Cloud Archive, enabling the latest Qemu features on the stable base that 12.04 LTS provides.

Chuck has also been leading the way for python3 compatibility, including some work on making python-novaclient python3 compatible.  He also worked on a bunch of upstream openstack patches.

As part of the hardware enablement stack, 3.10 kernel is being brought back to the 12.04 Precise.  This means that a bunch of these need to be made 3.10 compatible.  James worked on resolving a failure with with iscsitarget, and pushed it upstream.

James uploaded a new snapshot of OpenvSwitch 1.10.1 to Saucy.  working on Nicira NVP support for the OpenStack charms

Robie did some great work on enabling multiple tests (DEP8/autopkgtest) for LXC, which was discussed on the ubuntu-server mailing list.

Scott decided it would be a good idea to hike to the top of Mount Democrat, and whilst doing some cloud-init enablement and simplestreams development.

Serge, who has been pushing LXC developments in Ubuntu built a custom Saucy kernel with Dwight’s xfs userns patchset (final set needed before we can ask kernel team for enablement!) and also investigated signalfd/epoll/sigchld race which was reproducible with LXC.

Yolanda worked on writing a charm to deploy your own Gerrit code review tool, a pretty nasty ipxe assembly rebuild bug (upstream believe it to be a GCC bug!), and solving a bind9 issue.

Oh, and this week Andy Murray also won the tennis championship, Wimbledon – which I for one, attribute his success to Week 28 of Ubuntu Server development.  The most interesting part of this, is that he is the first British man to win who wasn’t wearing full length trousers.  I’ve heard, but it’s yet to be confirmed – that he used juju during his training, but this is yet to be confirmed.

2013-07-09 Ubuntu Server Team Meeting

Posted in Ubuntu Server meeting minutes on July 10th, 2013 by Yolanda Robla

Agenda

 

Minutes

 

Meeting information

 

Meeting summary

 

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

The discussion about “Review ACTION points from previous meeting” started at 16:00.

 

Saucy Development

The discussion about “Saucy Development” started at 16:04.

 

Ubuntu Server Team Events

The discussion about “Ubuntu Server Team Events” started at 16:29.

 

Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

The discussion about “Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)” started at 16:33.

 

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

The discussion about “Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)” started at 16:35.

 

Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

The discussion about “Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)” started at 16:36.

 

Open Discussion

The discussion about “Open Discussion” started at 16:37.

 

Announce next meeting date and time

The discussion about “Announce next meeting date and time” started at 16:39.

 

Vote results

 

Action items

  • rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy
  • zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy.

 

Action items, by person

  • Daviey
    • rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy
  • rbasak
    • rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy
  • zul
    • zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy.

 

People present (lines said)

  • Daviey (53)
  • yolanda (37)
  • rbasak (14)
  • jamespage (13)
  • ubottu (8)
  • arosales (6)
  • psivaa (6)
  • zul (5)
  • meetingology (5)
  • smoser (4)
  • doko (3)
  • smb (2)
  • adam_g (2)
  • roaksoax (1)

 

Full Log

  • 16:00 <yolanda> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team

    16:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 9 16:00:13 2013 UTC. The chair is yolanda. Information about MeetBot athttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

    16:00 <meetingology>

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    16:00 <Daviey> o/

    16:00 <yolanda> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting

    16:00 <yolanda> arosales to carry out post-meeting procedure (minutes, etc) documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBasefor meeting of 25 June

    16:01 <yolanda> any update?

    16:01 <jamespage> o/

    16:02 <roaksoax> o/

    16:02 <yolanda> Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion

    16:03 <Daviey> yolanda: 25 June still not done. I’ll work with arosales after this

    16:03 <Daviey> yolanda: I haven’t spoken to percona this week. Will do THIS week

    16:04 <yolanda> ok, let’s leave as pending then

    16:04 <yolanda> any other pending topics?

    16:04 <Daviey> Nope

    16:04 <yolanda> #topic Saucy Development

    16:04 <yolanda> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule

    16:05 <yolanda> #subtopic Release Bugs

    16:05 <yolanda> Daviey, any update with that?

    16:05 <arosales> sorry, joined a little late

    16:05 <arosales> here now

    16:05 <Daviey> First.. the Release Schedule

    16:05 <Daviey> DebianImportFreeze / Alpha2ish

    16:05 <Daviey> Would be good to be up to date on sync’s and merges for then.

    16:06 <Daviey> rbasak has graciously fixed my delta report

    16:06 <arosales> yolanda, I think rbasak put in a new process that he is carrying forward. I will ensure the wiki has the minutes from my chair’ing for historical reasons

    16:06 <Daviey> http://people.canonical.com/~rbasak/delta.html

    16:06 <rbasak> Note: I haven’t cronned that. I generated it earlier.

    16:06 <Daviey> We should try over this next week to reduce our delta with Debian

    16:07 <yolanda> rbasak, are you doing something automatic?

    16:07 <Daviey> #ACTION rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy 16:07 * meetingology rbasak to land delta report to lp:ubuntu-reports, Daviey to deploy

    16:07 <rbasak> yolanda: I intend to, but I haven’t done it yet.

    16:07 <rbasak> ack

    16:08 <yolanda> i could help a bit with merges and syncs this week also

    16:08 <jamespage> Daviey, +1 to that

    16:09 <Daviey> Shall we look at, http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server

    16:09 <Daviey> bug 1124384

    16:09 <ubottu> bug 1124384 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Saucy) “Configuration reload clears event that others jobs may be waiting on” [High,Confirmed]https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124384

    16:09 <Daviey> smoser: Are we expecting a cloud-init upload soon?

    16:09 <smoser> yes.

    16:09 <Daviey> I noticed that Debian is carrying a delta

    16:10 <smoser> that one is fixed in raring ..

    16:10 <smoser> oh?

    16:10 <Daviey> smoser: http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/cloud-init/cloud-init_0.7.2-1_changelog

    16:11 <Daviey> Might be worth checking if we can fold anything interesting

    16:11 <Daviey> bug 1196921

    16:11 <ubottu> bug 1196921 in vim (Ubuntu Saucy) “updating packages to lua5.2 in main” [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196921

    16:11 <smoser> yeah. thanks.

    16:12 <Daviey> rbasak: You had thoguths on transitions such as this. Is it worth just uploading a new rrdtool and see what breaks?

    16:12 <Daviey> (i feel evil suggesting that)

    16:13 <Daviey> adam_g: bug 1183634 ?

    16:13 <ubottu> bug 1183634 in cheetah (Ubuntu Saucy) “cheetah pkg does not depend on markdown, but egg requires.txt does” [High,Triaged]https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183634

    16:13 <rbasak> Sorry poor connection here

    16:13 <adam_g> Daviey, progressing, slowly. security team just started moving on the python-markdown MIR

    16:14 <adam_g> Daviey, should be good once thats done

    16:14 <Daviey> Super!

    16:14 <Daviey> I see they last touched it 20 hours ago.. so making progress

    16:15 <Daviey> bug 1170393, jamespage

    16:15 <ubottu> bug 1170393 in quantum (Ubuntu Saucy) “Quantum services should be respawned by upstart if necessary” [Medium,Triaged]https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170393

    16:15 <jamespage> catching up on openstack this week

    16:16 <rbasak> Daviey: I don’t follow. It looks like we’re up-to-date with Debian on rrdtool?

    16:17 <Daviey> rbasak: No, that isn’t the problem.. there is a lua transition needed, and that package is marked as depending on it

    16:17 <Daviey> Feels very similar to the ruby and mysql issues we had.. Keeps getting deferred, then someone does it blindly.. and that prompts issues to be flushed out.

    16:18 <rbasak> Daviey: oh, so a no change rebuild?

    16:18 <Daviey> rbasak: yah

    16:18 <rbasak> I have less objection to someone blindly doing a no change rebuild, since that shouldn’t introduce any new issues that didn’t already exist

    16:18 <rbasak> If I were doing it I’d test it first though

    16:19 <Daviey> ok

    16:19 <Daviey> zul: Do you know why apache2 is still held?

    16:19 <Daviey> (saucy-proposed)

    16:20 <rbasak> There’s a big pile of breakages it would cause. I looked today – it looks like almost everything is waiting on Debian

    16:20 <zul> Daviey: yeah one packaging is blocking it, its being fixed in debian

    16:20 <Daviey> zul: which package?

    16:20 <rbasak> zul: it looked like many more than one to me

    16:20 <rbasak> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt

    16:20 <zul> Daviey: dont remember off the top of my head

    16:21 <rbasak> I counted 62 source packages in there

    16:21 <zul> uwsgi

    16:21 <Daviey> Does someone want to volunteer to get to grips of proposed migration issues this week?

    16:22 <Daviey> I’m seeing more server seed issues on excuses.html than we’d like

    16:22 <Daviey> zul: Fancy it ?

    16:23 <zul> Daviey: sure

    16:23 <zul> Daviey: not really but ill do it

    16:23 <Daviey> #ACTION zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy. 16:23 * meetingology zul has willfully volunteered to review and document what is blocking server related saucy-proposed migration excuses, with joy.

    16:23 <yolanda> !

    16:24 <yolanda> Daviey, any more bugs to review?

    16:24 <Daviey> bug 1196979 , jamespage – can you summarise ?

    16:24 <ubottu> bug 1196979 in ow-util-ant-tasks (Ubuntu Saucy) “[MIR] libasm4-java (b-d of jarjar)” [Undecided,New]https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196979

    16:24 <jamespage> transition

    16:24 <jamespage> I have it on my list

    16:24 <Daviey> ok, thanks

    16:25 <Daviey> rbasak: bug 1031680 , been a bunch of discussion. Do we have a plan?

    16:25 <ubottu> bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) “check_apt always report 0 critical updates” [High,Triaged]https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031680

    16:26 <rbasak> Daviey: I’m happy with the plan xnox described on the ML. It needs someone to actually do it, though.

    16:26 <Daviey> rbasak: ok, thanks.

    16:26 <Daviey> Any more bugs?

    16:26 <Daviey> Blueprints.. Don’t think we need to review them this week.

    16:27 <Daviey> Would like to check on.. juju-core, is there any progress on getting an update into saucy ?

    16:27 <Daviey> jamespage: ^ ?

    16:27 <jamespage> Daviey, I pinged mgz today – 1.1.1 of golang is now in saucy (I jumped the Debian maintainer and pushed a point release in myself)

    16:27 <Daviey> Super!

    16:28 <jamespage> mgz is going to work on that with davecheney ~soon

    16:28 <jamespage> end of this week latest I hope

    16:28 <Daviey> A General note. Please make sure that if you are working on something, anything, it is captured as a WI.

    16:28 <jamespage> ^ that all is

    16:28 <Daviey> There are too many 0% progresses for the cycle and a 100% Info (!)

    16:28 <jamespage> also remember a work item can be a bug linked to a blueprint as well

    16:29 <Daviey> EOF, thanks

    16:29 <yolanda> ok

    16:29 <yolanda> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events

    16:29 <yolanda> i received emails for OpenStack summit and free registration codes

    16:30 <yolanda> shall we register so soon?

    16:31 <Daviey> yolanda: Yes, do register Smile :)

    16:31 <Daviey> I haven’t done so yet.

    16:31 <yolanda> ok

    16:31 <Daviey> But a bunch of ~ubuntu-server people are going to Openstack Summit in Honk Kong, November.

    16:31 <Daviey> But a little early to declare it

    16:32 <yolanda> any other events?

    16:32 <arosales> OSCON coming up at towards the end of the months

    16:32 <Daviey> None in the short term, i don’t think

    16:32 <arosales> OSCON = ~july 22~

    16:33 <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

    16:33 <psivaa> I am in for plars for this week

    16:33 <psivaa> Just a couple of bugs affecting the smoke tests, jdstrand and apw were working on them

    16:33 <psivaa> bug #1197484 and bug #1195710

    16:33 <ubottu> bug 1197484 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) “Connection requests to saucy server VMs from a precise host fail after fresh VM installs” [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197484

    16:33 <psivaa> Smile :)

    16:33 <ubottu> bug 1195710 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) “‘Kernel bug – invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP’ is reported at ‘Preparing linux-image-extra-3.10.0-0-generic’ stage of multi-lvm installations of amd64 saucy server ” [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195710

    16:33 <smb> The last one being worked on by apw

    16:34 <psivaa> jdstrand said he will look into the first one

    16:34 <yolanda> ok

    16:34 <yolanda> anything else for psivaa?

    16:34 <psivaa> that’s all from us this week

    16:35 <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

    16:35 <smb> Not much from me. Xen-4.3 is in progress and the usual funny bugs.

    16:35 <yolanda> any question for smb?

    16:36 <yolanda> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

    16:36 <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?

    16:36 <doko> jamespage, are you involved with the Debian go policy?

    16:36 <doko> are don’t you care?

    16:36 <Daviey> rbasak: Looking forward to learning what comes out of Connect when you return Smile :)

    16:37 <jamespage> doko, not really but I think i may have to start….

    16:37 <yolanda> #topic Open Discussion

    16:37 <doko> jamespage, cool, lets chat about this next week

    16:37 <yolanda> any other topics to brig?

    16:37 <yolanda> bring?

    16:38 <jamespage> doko, yes – lets do that

    16:38 <yolanda> anything else?

    16:39 <yolanda> ok, so let’s finish

    16:39 <yolanda> #topic Announce next meeting date and time

    16:39 <arosales> thanks for chairing yolanda Smile :-)

    16:39 <yolanda> next meeting will be on 16th of July

    16:39 <yolanda> adam_g will be chairing

    16:39 <jamespage> so long as yolanda gets all the paper work out by then Smile :-)

    16:40 <yolanda> sure Smile :)

    16:40 <yolanda> #endmeeting

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2013-07-02 Ubuntu Server Team Meeting

Posted in Ubuntu Server meeting minutes on July 5th, 2013 by Robie Basak

Agenda

Meeting information

Meeting summary

 

Review ACTION points from previous meeting

 

The discussion about “Review ACTION points from previous meeting” started at 16:03.

Saucy Development

 

The discussion about “Saucy Development” started at 16:08.

  • Release Tracking Bug Tasks(16:08)

  • Blueprints(16:22)

    • arosales will file a bug to have the trend line updated.
    • MariaDB/Percona: zul says that he hasn’t heard anything. Daviey will reach out to them this week. ACTION: Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion

Ubuntu Server Team Events

 

The discussion about “Ubuntu Server Team Events” started at 16:33.

  • Linaro Connect is in Dublin next week.
  • An Openstack 3rd birthday event is in London on the 19th.

Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

 

The discussion about “Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)” started at 16:34.

Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

 

The discussion about “Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)” started at 16:35.

Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

 

The discussion about “Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)” started at 16:41.

  • No updates.
  • Daviey asked about mongodb status. rbasak reported that it is still on his TODO list.

Open Discussion

 

The discussion about “Open Discussion” started at 16:42.

  • rbasak suggested that with the problems with chairs not completing post-meeting procedures, perhaps they should remain the chair, without rotation, until post-meeting procedures are completed, as an incentive to get things done. rbasak proposed that this start with him. Nobody had any comments.

Announce next meeting date, time and chair

 

The discussion about “Announce next meeting date, time and chair” started at 16:46.

The next meeting will be on Tuesday, 9 July 2013 at 1600 UTC. yolanda will chair.

Vote results

  • None

Action items

Action items, by person

People present (lines said)

  • rbasak (91)
  • Daviey (59)
  • jamespage (33)
  • arosales (11)
  • ubottu (10)
  • meetingology (5)
  • plars (4)
  • zul (3)
  • xnox (3)
  • roaksoax (3)
  • smb (2)
  • yolanda (1)
  • utlemming (1)

Full Log

  • 16:03 <rbasak> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team

    16:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 2 16:03:09 2013 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

    16:03 <meetingology>

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    16:03 <rbasak> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting

    16:03 <arosales> Daviey set priority on s-cycle BPs

    16:03 <arosales> Daviey follow up on missing BPs from overview s-topic

    16:04 <rbasak> I don’t see last week’s meeting logs

    16:04 <arosales> rbasak, I just updated the wiki page with those two actions

    16:05 <rbasak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20130625 doesn’t exist.

    16:05 <Daviey> arosales: Broadsided me Smile :-)

    16:05 <rbasak> I’ll look at the IRC logs.

    16:05 <Daviey> I believe the priorities are all good NOW.. I need to double check they are all on the status tracker.

    16:05 <arosales> rbasak, yes sorry I didn’t add that there

    16:05 <Daviey> Mark it done, will double check following this.

    16:05 <arosales> the moin logs are at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-06-25-16.00.moin.txt

    16:05 <arosales> rbasak, I’ll get those added to the wiki

    16:06 <rbasak> Thanks

    16:06 <rbasak> #action arosales to carry out post-meeting procedure (minutes, etc) documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase for meeting of 25 June

    16:06 * meetingology arosales to carry out post-meeting procedure (minutes, etc) documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase for meeting of 25 June

    16:07 <rbasak> Sorry I’m just catching up.

    16:07 <arosales> rbasak, thank you

    16:07 <rbasak> Daviey follow up on missing BPs from overview s-topic

    16:07 <rbasak> Did you just cover that?

    16:08 <Daviey> Yes

    16:08 <rbasak> OK

    16:08 <rbasak> #topic Saucy Development

    16:08 <rbasak> #subtopic Release Tracking Bug Tasks

    16:08 <rbasak> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server

    16:09 <rbasak> Shall I go through these?

    16:09 <Daviey> rbasak: Please do

    16:09 <rbasak> Would it be an idea to make sure someone is assigned to each of them?

    16:09 <rbasak> bug 1124384

    16:09 <ubottu> bug 1124384 in cloud-init (Ubuntu Saucy) “Configuration reload clears event that others jobs may be waiting on” [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124384

    16:10 <rbasak> utlemming: any comment? Do you want to follow that through?

    16:10 <rbasak> bug 1196921

    16:10 <ubottu> bug 1196921 in vim (Ubuntu Saucy) “updating packages to lua5.2 in main” [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196921

    16:10 <rbasak> Nobody is assigned at the moment. Any volunteers?

    16:11 <Daviey> Looks like 1124384 has become a hard problem, but smoser and utlemming are tracking it. Not worried it will be resolved

    16:11 <Daviey> 1196921 looks like a transition that could be painful.. As it’s not a blocking package, i think we can leave it for this week

    16:11 <rbasak> bug 1183634

    16:11 <ubottu> bug 1183634 in cheetah (Ubuntu Saucy) “cheetah pkg does not depend on markdown, but egg requires.txt does” [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1183634

    16:12 <rbasak> Looks like it’s waiting on the MIR team.

    16:12 <Daviey> adam_g is tracking that

    16:12 <rbasak> bug 1170393

    16:12 <ubottu> bug 1170393 in quantum (Ubuntu Saucy) “Quantum services should be respawned by upstart if necessary” [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1170393

    16:12 <Daviey> I think 1183634 needs an upload to make it show on c-m list

    16:13 <Daviey> jamespage: what am i looking at on that bug? Shows Won’t Fix?

    16:13 <jamespage> I’ll take that quantum one

    16:14 <rbasak> May I assign it, so that we remember for next week?

    16:14 <Daviey> jamespage: Why does the recent change show Won’t Fix?

    16:14 <jamespage> not a clue – rbasak – I’ve already done that 16:14 * jamespage shrugs

    16:14 <rbasak> Thanks!

    16:15 <Daviey> Ah, i see.. the development series was thrown away, with a dedicated saucy task

    16:15 <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/1188069 is security and the security team are tracking it.

    16:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1188069 in apache2 (Ubuntu Saucy) “apache2 mod_rewrite CVE 2013-1862” [Low,Confirmed]

    16:15 <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libasm4-java/+bug/1196979

    16:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1196979 in ow-util-ant-tasks (Ubuntu Saucy) “[MIR] libasm4-java (b-d of jarjar)” [Undecided,New]

    16:15 <jamespage> anyone want to help with something java-ish

    16:15 <jamespage> ?

    16:15 <jamespage>

    16:15 <jamespage> two packages to transition to asm4 in main

    16:15 <jamespage> so we can get rid of asm3

    16:16 <Daviey> jamespage: Happen to know why jarjar is in main?

    16:16 <jamespage> cglib

    16:16 <jamespage> which is one of the things that needs to be transitioned

    16:16 <jamespage> I suspect its actually broken right now

    16:16 <jamespage> as asm upstream don’t version their package namespaces and they are not backwards compat

    16:16 <Daviey> ugh!

    16:16 <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nagios-plugins/+bug/1031680

    16:16 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031680 in nagios-plugins (Ubuntu Raring) “check_apt always report 0 critical updates” [High,Triaged]

    16:17 <Daviey> jamespage: Do you have capacity to triage that?

    16:17 <jamespage> nagios or asm4?

    16:17 <Daviey> (java one)

    16:17 <jamespage> yeah – sure

    16:17 <Daviey> ta

    16:17 <jamespage> (I discussed with doko earlier in -devel anyways)

    16:18 <rbasak> I’ve been looking at this one. It’s a complex issue and there’s a workaround (use a different, much simpler plugin). I’m not sure it can be fixed in _this package_ for Saucy without introducing a horrible delta.

    16:18 <Daviey> rsome good triage there

    16:18 <rbasak> xnox: any comment on that? You targetted it for Saucy.

    16:18 <Daviey> rbasak: seems xnox raised it with upstream?

    16:18 <rbasak> I raised it.

    16:19 <Daviey> Oh sorry.

    16:19 <rbasak> The only comment is that we need to provide input since upstream need help. But the only sane way of fixing it is to ditch the plugin and use update-notifier directly, for Ubuntu.

    16:19 <Daviey> rbasak: lets wait to see if upstream respond?

    16:19 <rbasak> They sort of have.

    16:19 <xnox> rbasak: looking… trying to remember.

    16:19 <rbasak> ” I’m less keen on having

    16:19 <rbasak> the behaviour depend on whether or not some tool is available, though; as

    16:20 <rbasak> that’s problematic with respect to maintenance and support. And I guess

    16:20 <rbasak> update-notifier is a bit too Ubuntu-ish to add a hard dependency on

    16:20 <rbasak> apt-check …

    16:20 <rbasak> Sorry I thought that’d paste on one line.

    16:20 <Daviey> So do we simply recommend using the other tool?

    16:20 <rbasak> IMHO, yes.

    16:20 <Daviey> WFM

    16:20 <rbasak> The alternative isn’t packaged, though.

    16:20 <Daviey> if it’s a drop in feature compatible

    16:20 <rbasak> It’s not.

    16:20 <Daviey> Pah

    16:20 <rbasak> But it’ll do for 99% of use cases IMHO.

    16:21 <rbasak> The existing plugin’s interface is very much based on the way it works. It’s not really a clean interface.

    16:21 <rbasak> How about I take this to the ML?

    16:21 <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtinst/+bug/1192290

    16:21 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1192290 in virtinst (Ubuntu Saucy) “virt-install cannot install Raring” [Undecided,Confirmed]

    16:22 <Daviey> mdeslaur seems to be working on it

    16:22 <rbasak> OK that’s all the bugs on that report for us.

    16:22 <Daviey> \o/

    16:22 <rbasak> #subtopic Blueprints

    16:22 <rbasak> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy/group/topic-saucy-servercloud-overview.html

    16:23 <rbasak> That link appears to be broken.

    16:23 <jamespage> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html

    16:23 <rbasak> Thanks!

    16:23 <rbasak> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-servercloud-overview.html

    16:23 <rbasak> I’ll amend the agenda for next time.

    16:24 <Daviey> Ta

    16:24 <xnox> rbasak: yeah, i only mangled bug statuses to have this bug bubble up for saucy cycle. Ideally it should be resolved one way or the other, but could be regretfully postponed.

    16:24 <Daviey> arosales: Are you able to adjust the trend line?

    16:24 <arosales> Daviey, unfortunately no

    16:24 <arosales> Daviey, a bug report should get the right folks looking at it though

    16:25 <arosales> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-work-items-tracker/+filebug

    16:25 <rbasak> xnox: OK, thanks. I’ll email the ML with what I think we should do and copy you in.

    16:25 <Daviey> utlemming / ivoks: What is servercloud-s-webscale MIR’s blocked on?

    16:25 <jamespage> that topic is stilling missing bp’s btw

    16:25 <xnox> rbasak: cool =) back in the day I used to do a lot of nagios/check_mk large scale monitoring…. =)

    16:26 <jamespage> Daviey, the MIR’s are dependent on the other work items happening first

    16:26 <Daviey> jamespage: Will sweep up after this, but we have enough to track development of what is there for now

    16:26 <arosales> jamespage, I think Daviey has an action out to follow up on missing BPs

    16:26 <Daviey> jamespage: OIC

    16:26 <utlemming> Daviey: er, I am not sure…I’ll look into that today. I’ve been out on vacation

    16:27 <Daviey> jamespage: Would you be able to work with zul to help with the direction of servercloud-s-openstack-hypervisor ?

    16:27 <jamespage> Daviey, can do

    16:27 <Daviey> jamespage: I suspect you are well placed to have some good guidance, based on last Friday

    16:27 <jamespage> ack

    16:28 <rbasak> Any more on Blueprints?

    16:28 <Daviey> roaksoax: What is our zeromq story right now?

    16:28 <Daviey> (servercloud-s-openstack-charms-ha-v2)

    16:28 <roaksoax> Daviey: have not look at it yet (been busy with charms mainly)

    16:28 <Daviey> ok

    16:29 <Daviey> Any more news on MariaDB/Percona ?

    16:29 <roaksoax> i’ll have more information next week

    16:29 <zul> Daviey: they have gone silent

    16:29 <Daviey> I saw the ITP in Debian for xtrabackup

    16:29 <roaksoax> zul: didn’t jcastro mentioned they were going to provide their own charm too?

    16:29 <Daviey> Okay, i’ll reach out to them this week.

    16:29 <zul> roaksoax: they did but i havent heard anything else 16:30 * Daviey Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion

    16:30 <Daviey> #ACTION Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion 16:30 * meetingology Daviey to speak to Percona about Saucy inclusion

    16:30 <rbasak> I’d really like to see the alternatives in this cycle. Otherwise we’ll end up not even being able to consider doing anything but supporting mysql for another LTS cycle.

    16:31 <Daviey> jamespage: Any news on juju-core snapshot in saucy ?

    16:31 <Daviey> rbasak: right

    16:31 <jamespage> Daviey, the juju-core team hit some issues end of last week

    16:31 <jamespage> should be resolved ~2 days ish

    16:32 <Daviey> super

    16:32 <Daviey> The rest looks ok, thanks.

    16:33 <rbasak> Thanks Daviey!

    16:33 <rbasak> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events

    16:33 <rbasak> Linaro Connect is in Dublin next week.

    16:33 <rbasak> (I’ll be there)

    16:33 <rbasak> Any other upcoming events?

    16:33 <Daviey> Hmm

    16:34 <Daviey> 19th London, Openstack Meetup

    16:34 <Daviey> Openstack’s 3rd birthday event

    16:34 <Daviey> EOF

    16:34 <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)

    16:34 <rbasak> plars: hello!

    16:34 <plars> Hi

    16:34 <zul> it seems i am in the wrong part of the world for events

    16:34 <plars> Not much to report, except that the server images had some problems today

    16:34 <plars> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1196981

    16:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1196981 in Ubuntu CD Images “Saucy server installations fail due to dependancy issues on python-newt ” [Undecided,Fix released]

    16:35 <plars> I believe the release team is looking into it

    16:35 <rbasak> Thanks plars! Does anyone have any questions for plars?

    16:35 <rbasak> OK.

    16:35 <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)

    16:35 <smb> Hi

    16:35 <smb> Not much to report. Currently working on a pre-release-pre-debian version of xen 4.3 to have the pieces together when the release happens. Any issues from server after kernel v3.10 hit the block?

    16:36 <rbasak> I still appear to be using a 3.9 based cloud image as of today.

    16:36 <rbasak> Any questions for smb?

    16:36 <Daviey> jamespage fixed openvswitch, iscisitarget is still broke

    16:37 <jamespage> next on my list

    16:37 <Daviey> jamespage: is there a bug for iscsi-target?

    16:37 <jamespage> yes

    16:37 <rbasak> Should we target that for Saucy?

    16:37 <jamespage> bug 1195607

    16:37 <ubottu> bug 1195607 in iscsitarget (Ubuntu Saucy) “iscsitarget-dkms broken since kernel 3.10.0” [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1195607

    16:37 <jamespage> it already is

    16:37 <Daviey> Thanks 16:37 * jamespage wonders about the release bugs list again

    16:37 <rbasak> It didn’t come up on the tracking page though?

    16:38 <Daviey> it’s not tagged

    16:38 <Daviey> Tags are useless. Smile :-)

    16:38 <jamespage> it should not need to be tagged

    16:38 <jamespage> it has a release task and its subbed by ubuntu-server

    16:38 <rbasak> Other bugs in the report are not tagged.

    16:38 <jamespage> that should be sufficient IMHO

    16:39 <rbasak> It dosen’t look like it’s subbed by ubuntu-server to me.

    16:39 <rbasak> It doesn’t appear in the “May be notified” list

    16:40 <rbasak> Can an ~ubuntu-server admin fix that please?

    16:41 <rbasak> Daviey? jamespage?

    16:41 <jamespage> ack

    16:41 <rbasak> Thanks!

    16:41 <rbasak> (and to smb!)

    16:41 <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)

    16:41 <rbasak> Nothing new to report. Any questions for me?

    16:41 <Daviey> rbasak: Any news on mongo?

    16:42 <rbasak> I’ve not looked at it, sorry.

    16:42 <Daviey> no problem

    16:42 <Daviey> EOF

    16:42 <rbasak> #topic Open Discussion

    16:43 <rbasak> Is there anything anybody wants to bring up?

    16:43 <rbasak> I do, actually, related to the next item.

    16:44 <jamespage> rbasak, congrats btw

    16:44 <rbasak> I have a proposal that I hope is constructive. Instead of rotating the chair weekly, how about we rotate the chair once the chair completes the post-meeting procedure?

    16:44 <rbasak> Thanks jamespage!

    16:44 <jamespage> for those that don’t know rbasak is now a MOTU and member of ubuntu-server-dev

    16:45 <yolanda> congrats

    16:45 <Daviey> +1!

    16:45 <rbasak> Thanks Smile :)

    16:46 <rbasak> If we do that, then the previous chair will have his notes, and there won’t be a delay at the start with confusion over who’s chairing. And it’s an incentive to get it done Smile :)

    16:46 <rbasak> I propose it starts with me, so I might as well volunteer to chair next week unless I get it done.

    16:46 <rbasak> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair

    16:47 <rbasak> The next meeting will be on 9 July at 1600 UTC as usual. I may be absent as I’ll be at Linaro Connect. So I hope I’ll get it done and yolanda will chair Smile :)

    16:47 <rbasak> #endmeeting

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